Coffee with Richard
Posted by harlan on 19 Feb 2008 at 03:26 pm | Tagged as: talking to the void
Richard sent me a long email message that seemed polite and condescending at the same time. It’s as though he thinks he’s superior to me because he’s got a job and I don’t. He loves talking about my problems, but the guy’s got his own problems. For crying out loud, he’s gay and his favorite movie is Top Gun! I agreed to meet him for coffee today, so I showed up at the Starbucks near my old work. I’d forgotten how much I hate the music in Starbucks. Who the hell is Robert Plant? And you know what else stinks about Starbucks? The pastries. How hard is it to get donuts and danish rolls that taste like they were made this week? Anyway, I was in a foul mood when I met Richard, and I’m still in a foul mood.
He started by apologizing for telling me to stop leering at women. He said it was none of his business and he just wanted to help me recognize a blind spot. And then he apologized for some other advice he’d given me in his email about not being so extreme (he went on a long spiel about how I was too timid or too bold, too quiet or too loud, blah blah blah). I accepted his various apologies and almost felt like we were on equal footing, so I decided to answer his question about why I was so reluctant to visit my brother. That’s when he pissed me off again.
Here’s the deal. Back in the college days, I was in love with the most beautiful woman in the whole world. Becky was bright and charming and funny. She was all I could think about. She was all I dreamed about. To make a long and painful story short (and still painful), Becky is currently married to my brother. Instead of sympathizing with my betrayal and joining me in my bitter hatred of my brother, Richard decided to play lawyer.
Was I actually dating Becky?
Did I think my brother might have been telling the truth when he spouted his bullshit about thinking Becky and I were just friends?
I’m afraid Richard had a hostile witness. Of course I was dating Becky! We sat next to each other in class, we studied together, we had lunch together, we went on walks after class. I loved her and she loved me! Just because we didn’t see movies together and go out on traditional “dates” and have sex doesn’t mean we weren’t in love! I was pissed. Instead of making a big scene and yelling at Richard, I just got up and walked away.
I’m thinking about turning off email.
Ok, I’ll bite, reluctantly. I can understand how in your mind you were dating Becky although you weren’t going out on dates, but didn’t the fact you weren’t having sex allow a little reality to seep in? Or were you having sex, only nobody else was around?
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I hate to bring in pop culture, but the same thing happened with the Ramone brothers. They didn’t talk to each other for over ten years even though they were in the same band together.
I had a feeling that may have been the reason that you didn’t talk to your brother.
Is your brother older than you? Is it possible he doesn’t know anything about you? Just checking.
Sorry. Not a very helpful comment.
Since when is sex and dating mutually exclusive people? You can date and not have sex.. and you can have sex and not date. It’s not rocket science people.
I hate when people ram their unsolicited advice down my throat, I don’t blame you for walking out.
Harlan said he was neither dating nor having sex.
Sounds like Becky made a choice–maybe you are upset with the wrong person? Maybe I’m not even talking about Becky? Maybe I am.
I’ve had plenty of dates and plenty of sex with mutually exclusive people.
I am so impressed that you walked away. I probably would have cried. Richard sounds like a jerk. Who passes judgement when someone opens up about heartbreak, betrayal and loss? Yeah, a lawyer. Sounds a lot like my mother. You don’t have to be his friend. You don’t have to be friends with your brother either. I’m surprised you still want to maintain any sort of contact after that sort of backstabbing. I’m all for forgiveness and letting go and moving on blah blah but there are some situations that are a toxic waste of time and energy.
I do have a question. It’s mostly rhetorical and it’s your blog so of course I don’t expect an answer. But why were you in a relationship with Becky and not dating her? The set of circumstances you described sounds like a lot of my friendships. Not boyfriend/girlfriend relationships. Is there any chance at all that she had no idea that you loved her? I’m not saying what happened was right. Your brother sounds like a real prize. I’m just wondering if she’s really the kind of woman you think she is (ie worthy of your love) or was she just using you to get to him?
Did your brother know you were “in love” with Becky?
I don’t think Richard did anything wrong. He was just trying to point out a different view. True you don’t have to be friends with him but it doesn’t sound like a good idea to alienate people at this point in your life. If for no other reason he might be able to help you find another job.
clearly he said “of course I was dating Becky!”
I have measured out my life with coffee spoons.
Go on then Harlan,
Who is better - Becky or Jane?
Your life seems to be a long chain of emotional failuresand you seem to attach extreme importance to all of them.
Shit Happens.
Be assured that your life now would not be substantially different had you made some decisions differently. What you need to do is make lots and lots of decisions differently. Then maybe your life could be different, or maybe you could enjoy the one you have a little bit more…
alright, harlan. i’ve been reading this blog for sometime and haven’t commented yet. not that my opinion is the end all to your problems, but i think you might need to lower your defenses just a tad. i wasn’t there for the conversation, so richard’s condescention may have been completely irritating, but i just think he’s being a good friend by saying something to you. he sees that you’ve lots your job and that things aren’t at the peak for you, so he’s trying to be proactive.
The thing I love about this blog is it’s totally fiction and all you commenters are taking it so seriously and giving this person ADVICE! It’s so fantastic. I read this blog for the same entertainment value that I watch Moment of Truth on Fox.
In fact, I bet Harlan is a woman.
Man this is so great! Totally a guilty pleasure. Keep it up “Harlan” Good stuff!
Becky is totally fiction. No one listen to her. Harlan is real.
I totally agree Becky, which is why I was so disappointed with the story line yesterday. Of course, when told he was a disappointment, he amped up the story line.
You’re becoming predictable and easily led, ‘Harlan’. Create a new story line, hurry!
Oh, by the way…many of these readers ’sound’ an awful lot like you.
Harlan - I think there is some good advice on here for you. Take it in . . .
Becky you suck..
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LOL! It just keeps getting better. and Sandi you are so right! I bet half of these people are “Harlan”! LOL!
Tara, he said “of course I’m dating Becky!” to Richard. I’m wondering if he ever said it to his brother, or even Becky.
Perhaps. Maybe your the only ‘real’ person on here Becky. Now wouldn’t you feel stupid. Regardless be nice - cuz you never know.
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To TheFatKid: Oh HELL yeah. Fantastic. <3
And yeah, Richard sounds an awful lot like me. My best friend used to warn my potential boyfriends that “She likes to argue.” Which is, I suppose, marginally true. What I like to do, and what Richard did, is play Devil’s Advocate. There are always at *least* two sides to any story.
Bottom line in Becky’s story (Harlan’s Becky) is that she chose the brother. Richard is just trying to understand (and help you see) why. Was it because she was using you to get to your brother? Was it because she only thought of you as a friend? Was it because she did care for you but you never did anything about it?
As Ziggy said, maybe you’re directing your contempt at the wrong person?
Commenter Becky: We’re all working through shit in one way or another. Harlan, be he real or fictional, is helping us do it by allowing us to “Help” him. So piss off or jump right in. You know you want to.
Becky, I am not a woman, I do not comment as anyone but myself, and I am every bit as real as you. You talk about this post like I’m ramping up a storyline. If you consider having an argument at a Starbucks a wild, crazy storyline, you must be even more alone than I am.
I really don’t understand why some people find it so hard to believe I’m real, but there’s no way for me to prove it except saying my real name, and I’m not even sure how that would do it.
Did you really ask who Robert Plant is?
Harlan, perhaps you should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across the floors of silent seas. Or, maybe you should just stay out of Starbucks.
We are all Harlan…
Your brother can’t “steal” a woman if she’s not in love with you. Stop speaking to both of them forever. It’ll be freeing.
Maybe this blog would seem more real if the my-brother-stole-Becky story didn’t sound so contrived and your fault wasn’t so obvious in not telling Becky about your feelings. It begs people to say, “you idiot, what’d you expect?”
For decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse.
Dear Mr. Harlan,
It has come to my attention that there are those who doubt your existence as purported in this here fine blogging experience. My associates and I deal with these types of personal and business setbacks and are willing to aide you in your efforts to convince this fine readership of your true and real existence, once and for all.
If you would be so kind as to provide me with the following information, we will be most willing to provide the proof that your readers so desperately and needfully require. Please find forthwith aforementioned list of requisite information:
1. Full birth name
2. Social security number
3. Passport number
4. Driver’s Licence state and number
5. Bank account number(s)
6. Online trading account login name(s) and password(s)
7. Current address
8. Current telephone number
9. Net worth
10. Favorite Nabisco brand snack
Sincerely,
James Smith, FSA, Personal Identity Verification Services, Ag.
I’m Harlan. Are you, too?
Harlan am too I.
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